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 I think simply replacing "languages" with "versions" would ease this element of the proposal. ~ [[User:Waddlez3121|by Waddlez!]] 01:00, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 :Oh, true! That... completely slipped my mind, LOL. [[User:StarPunch|StarPunch]] ([[User talk:StarPunch|talk]]) 01:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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-==Standardized Boss Moves Locations (April 6, 2024 - April 20, 2024)==
-Hi! We currently have boss moves put somewhat unevenly around the wiki, with some bosses having their moves recorded on their personal pages ([[King Dedede]], [[Dark Matter Clone]], etc.) and at least one boss I can't track down has them on their stage page. I think these should be standardized, and specifically I think they should go to the boss stage pages. This is because:
-# Wiki-assisted players will have the convenience of the information being on the boss page, instead of having to go somewhere else to find the knowledge they need.
-# This will put relevant information on boss stage pages, most of which aren't stubs, but still fairly short due to their nature of being mostly just an arena (except such as in ''[[Kirby Star Allies]]'' but it still won't hurt).
-# This will mildly slim down several character pages, only having a major impact for the already lengthy pages of King Dedede and [[Meta Knight]], and it doesn't much impact any other boss.
-Thoughts? ~ [[User:Waddlez3121|by Waddlez!]] 23:02, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
-===Option 1: move to stage page===
-# My only preferred choice. ~ [[User:Waddlez3121|by Waddlez!]] 23:02, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
-#Second choice. I can see the merit in having the info on the stage page, although ultimately we're not a strategy guide. Also any standardization is better than none. {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 23:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
-===Option 2: move to boss's character/other page===
-#First choice. It's the moveset for the character, so it should go on their page. {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 23:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
-#Primary (and only) choice. Not just because the attack tables would be better off for the character but also because of a potential problem regarding bosses exclusive to circumstances like The Ultimate Choice. More details in the Discussion section. &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy17|Owencrazyboy17]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy17|talk]]) 23:55, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
-#Single choice here. As stated, this ''is'' the boss character we're talking about, so it wouldn't make as much sense to put the move-set where the boss appears when the boss has its own page.--[[User:Paistrie|Paistrie]] ([[User talk:Paistrie|talk]]) 16:00, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
-#It makes far more sense to me to list all the moves on one page given that boss moves tend to evolve over time. We could easily use an <nowiki>{{main}}</nowiki> on stage pages to link to the move listing page wherever that is. {{User:Basic Person/sig}} 19:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
-#I think having boss moves on their own makes the most sense for bosses and I think it'd be best to have these instead of putting them on location pages, mostly because it would be awkward for bosses that only appear in [[Arena]] modes. [[User:NVS Pixel|NVS Pixel]] ([[User talk:NVS Pixel|talk]]) 13:14, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
-#First option, and this is already what we do. Stage pages don't make sense when Kirby has many bosses exclusive to game modes like arenas, and putting boss details there would make giant pages. A boss page should cover info about a boss, and a stage page info about the stage. {{User:Gigi/sig}} 13:36, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
-===Option 3: make no changes===
-#Second option, although this is essentially the same as option 2, as we already only put boss moves in boss/character pages. For reasoning, same as option 2. {{User:Gigi/sig}} 13:36, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
-===Discussion===
-I thought of a bit of a major issue when it comes to option 1. Say, for example, a boss was fought exclusively in The True Arena or another location or mode with no defined stage count. If option 1 passed with the majority of votes...then how on earth would an attack table for a boss like Chaos Elfilis even work?! Wonder if there's some sort of solution that I'm not seeing... &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy17|Owencrazyboy17]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy17|talk]]) 23:55, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
-:I'd just put it on the Colosseum page under an exclusive boss heading, myself. <s>They wouldn't be the only exclusive boss there...</s> I get why that might not be appealing to some if the page is just intended to describe the mode but I think that's a good solution should option 1 be passed. Alternatively, special cases could be made for them, but that'd ruin the whole standardization idea.
-:I'm not fond of putting it under character pages because seeing what a boss uses in each fight over a vast number of games really isn't as useful as having info about the boss in the page about where you fight it, in my opinion. ~ [[User:Waddlez3121|by Waddlez!]] 00:04, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
-Like I mentioned on Discord, I am a bit confused on this proposal's existence. As far as I know, where to put boss attacks is already standardized, and that is to say to put it in the character/boss page, which would make option 2 and 3 the same. {{User:Gigi/sig}} 12:44, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
-:I can see the merit of moving it to the stage pages, as this would help somewhat with clogged character pages or pages for characters with multiple boss appearances where the moveset just gets listed over and over again (for example, [[King Dedede]], [[Meta Knight]], [[Kracko]]). I find those inconvenient. But I'm not sure if that's the proper solution to the problem, when it's probably a deeper underlying problem we can find a better way to handle. [[User:StarPunch|StarPunch]] ([[User talk:StarPunch|talk]]) 16:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
-::On Discord I proposed for recurring characters that are also bosses (mostly Dedede and Meta Knight) we should have separate boss pages for them, so that's another idea. That in general appears to be a problem for characters that appear in more than one game and aren't always bosses. {{User:Gigi/sig}} 13:39, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
-My only question is why not both, and for boss stages specifically. I know it'd be a huge clutter for Arena pages, but if we limit it to the stages (which describe hthe playthrough anyway), I could see having a more easily accessible table. Then again, the main template exists for a reason... {{User:ShadowKirby/sig}} 05:34, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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