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I'm honestly extremely confused by the games section of this page in multiple ways. My main problem is that I'm really not sure what it's meant to be listing - although it claims to to be minor characters, it doesn't seem to settle on any kind of definition as it includes Keeby (a playable character), big lists of characters who appear in cutscenes even when they have greater roles in the game (like Whispy Woods and a bunch of random enemies in the Super Star section), the Squeaks and a couple bosses from Forgotten Land even though the opening says enemies don't count (not to mention almost every enemy from the puzzle games), characters who have a good amount of dialogue (like the Halberd's crew, Channel PPP, and all of Waddle Dee Town's inhabitants), etc., etc. But even besides that main flaw, I'm not sure the page is even needed as I can't really imagine anyone being helped by a list of characters arbitrarily determined to be minor, especially when almost all of them are covered already on their own pages. If we do keep the page then it definitely needs a big overhaul - maybe we could shorten it to just characters without pages (so basically just the Dream Land 3 characters), or we could just entirely erase the game section and keep the anime and novel ones since those two don't seem to have the problems I just described (at least not to the same extent). [[User:Hewer|Hewer]] ([[User talk:Hewer|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Hewer|contributions]]) 15:12, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
I'm honestly extremely confused by the games section of this page in multiple ways. My main problem is that I'm really not sure what it's meant to be listing - although it claims to to be minor characters, it doesn't seem to settle on any kind of definition as it includes Keeby (a playable character), big lists of characters who appear in cutscenes even when they have greater roles in the game (like Whispy Woods and a bunch of random enemies in the Super Star section), the Squeaks and a couple bosses from Forgotten Land even though the opening says enemies don't count (not to mention almost every enemy from the puzzle games), characters who have a good amount of dialogue (like the Halberd's crew, Channel PPP, and all of Waddle Dee Town's inhabitants), etc., etc. But even besides that main flaw, I'm not sure the page is even needed as I can't really imagine anyone being helped by a list of characters arbitrarily determined to be minor, especially when almost all of them are covered already on their own pages. If we do keep the page then it definitely needs a big overhaul - maybe we could shorten it to just characters without pages (so basically just the Dream Land 3 characters), or we could just entirely erase the game section and keep the anime and novel ones since those two don't seem to have the problems I just described (at least not to the same extent). [[User:Hewer|Hewer]] ([[User talk:Hewer|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Hewer|contributions]]) 15:12, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
:Anyone? [[User:Hewer|Hewer]] ([[User talk:Hewer|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Hewer|contributions]]) 20:09, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
:Anyone? [[User:Hewer|Hewer]] ([[User talk:Hewer|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Hewer|contributions]]) 20:09, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
::I feel like the page is trying to include minor characters for within that game (excluding other games/media when considering that) since it includes Dedede and Meta Knight in a couple places, which, while I can see the idea behind, seems to make it more confusing. Also, while they don't impact the story at all (the article's definition of minor), I disagree with the article including playable characters as minor. Speaking of the article's definition ("A minor character is a character who, while having a more significant role than simply being an enemy or cameo appearance, is still not a major part of the main story"), I feel like that would discount almost every character with dialogue since there's not a lot of cases where a character has dialogue that's not part of the story, so I do agree that this page needs to be pared down (or have the definition of minor character changed). {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 11:28, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

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I'm honestly extremely confused by the games section of this page in multiple ways. My main problem is that I'm really not sure what it's meant to be listing - although it claims to to be minor characters, it doesn't seem to settle on any kind of definition as it includes Keeby (a playable character), big lists of characters who appear in cutscenes even when they have greater roles in the game (like Whispy Woods and a bunch of random enemies in the Super Star section), the Squeaks and a couple bosses from Forgotten Land even though the opening says enemies don't count (not to mention almost every enemy from the puzzle games), characters who have a good amount of dialogue (like the Halberd's crew, Channel PPP, and all of Waddle Dee Town's inhabitants), etc., etc. But even besides that main flaw, I'm not sure the page is even needed as I can't really imagine anyone being helped by a list of characters arbitrarily determined to be minor, especially when almost all of them are covered already on their own pages. If we do keep the page then it definitely needs a big overhaul - maybe we could shorten it to just characters without pages (so basically just the Dream Land 3 characters), or we could just entirely erase the game section and keep the anime and novel ones since those two don't seem to have the problems I just described (at least not to the same extent). Hewer (talk · contributions) 15:12, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Anyone? Hewer (talk · contributions) 20:09, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
I feel like the page is trying to include minor characters for within that game (excluding other games/media when considering that) since it includes Dedede and Meta Knight in a couple places, which, while I can see the idea behind, seems to make it more confusing. Also, while they don't impact the story at all (the article's definition of minor), I disagree with the article including playable characters as minor. Speaking of the article's definition ("A minor character is a character who, while having a more significant role than simply being an enemy or cameo appearance, is still not a major part of the main story"), I feel like that would discount almost every character with dialogue since there's not a lot of cases where a character has dialogue that's not part of the story, so I do agree that this page needs to be pared down (or have the definition of minor character changed). ---PinkYoshiFan 11:28, 1 September 2023 (UTC)