Editing Talk:Kirby Wiki

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== Mage sisters as dream friends ==

Can someone put in the news section that the Three Mage-sisters are going to be dream friends in 4.0.0? reveal video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57_DhgKqiIA [[User:Pinkyoshifan|Pinkyoshifan]] ([[User talk:Pinkyoshifan|talk]]) 12:21, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
:Sure, will get on that right away. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 18:08, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

== I can't put this where I want to so I'm putting it here==

I'm trying to create an account on FEW but whenever I try it comes up as an internal error-how do I get past this?[[User:Ghist|Ghist]] ([[User talk:Ghist|talk]]) 18:42, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
:They likely have the same issue we had earlier this week. You will want to go to Grifkuba and tell them about this. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 20:43, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
::OK,where do I talk to them?(also thx)[[User:Ghist|Ghist]] ([[User talk:Ghist|talk]]) 13:29, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
:::I am getting word that the issue over there has been fixed. Try making an account there again. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 18:27, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

== Nintendo Switch Online ==
Should we mention in the news that Kirby's Adventure was released on Nintendo Entertainment System - Nintendo Switch Online? The Mario Wiki mentions NES game rereleases on Nintendo Switch Online. [[User:Luigi1234|Luigi1234]] ([[User talk:Luigi1234|talk]]) 13:46, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
:Nintendo's news article about that was referenced on the game's article ''[[Kirby's Adventure]]'' under the attribute "Release Date(s)", though neither a [[Help:References|reference]] for the version on, or an article [[NES Classic Edition]] yet exists as far as I'm aware. Either way, I think we're firstly needing a cleaning up of the wiki and improvements on the [[Help:Contents|Help & Policy pages]], many of these are pretty outdated and poor in comparison to other wikis', so until then, suggest/ask and/or implement whatever you think is valuable, and references before they're lost are always good to store somewhere even if there exists a better to-be-made place but you're not up to creating it, but just don't place references too far away from suitable locations. Of course, that should refer to situations where your way seems more suitable than the way the wiki's current policies suggest. --[[User:Viperision|Viperision]] ([[User talk:Viperision|talk]]) 14:17, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
::If I may interject, this has nothing to do with the NES Classic Edition, nor should 'cleaning of the wiki' take priority over important coverage of recent events on the wiki. That said, I don't think this particular event is notable enough to warrant being placed on the News section, given how many times ''Kirby's Adventure'' has been re-released in the past. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 18:19, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
:::Oops.. didn't notice quite well that Luigi1234 asked about mentioning that in the News section of the main page - instead I thought he was asking about mentioning it generally. Since that was the case I thought, I then said it was mentioned on game's article already, then I also continued on commenting on what's actually not referenced yet (and that is/are Nintendo's news article(s) about NES Classic Edition). I think the rest is clear if you look it from my previous point of view that I described. Well, now that I understood the message correctly, I am not arguing that 'cleaning of the wiki' should take priority, it should not even interfere with the News section in way that blocks, well, the news. Thanks for understanding and I'm sorry for I misunderstood the original message. --[[User:Viperision|Viperision]] ([[User talk:Viperision|talk]]) 19:41, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

==Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn release==
Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn has released in all regions that it is confirmed to be releasing in, but the home page thing still says that it has been released in most regions, which makes it seem that it will release in more regions at a later date. [[User:JRJ007|JRJ007]] ([[User talk:JRJ007|talk]]) 15:26, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
:I just updated the template, but it might take some time for the main page to update.  Shouldn't take long, though. -[[User:YoshiFlutterJump|<span style="color:#0a0">YFJ</span>]] ([[User talk:YoshiFlutterJump|<span style="color:#0a0">talk</span>]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/YoshiFlutterJump|<span style="color:#0a0">edits</span>]]) 16:45, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

== Kirby Wiki? ==

Why is the front page bearing the title "Kirby Wiki"? The wiki's name is '''Wi'''Kirby [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 20:39, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
:Because people don't search Google for 'WiKirby'. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 02:11, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

== Main page link ==

On the Kirby Wiki page the Kirby 64 link in the 'Did you know' section doesn't work, so it should probably get fixed soon. -[[User:JRJ007|JRJ007]] 17:46, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
:Now fixed. Thanks for reporting it. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 20:16, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

== Default Skin ==

For those of you who don't know me, I'm tacopill, one of the people who run things behind the scenes. 

The current default skin has been with the wiki since the wiki's inception, but sadly, we have no one around to maintain it any more. 

You see, it's a custom skin that doesn't get updated when MediaWiki has a new versions out, and therefore it needs to be maintained by volunteers outside of MediaWiki's main programers. They would help make sure any new bugs, inconsistencies, etc. that show up are taken care of. 

With no one in grifkuba, or any of our hosted sites, affalites, etc. around to help do so, we are asking your community to discuss amongst yourselves what skin should be the default one? 

The current one will still be available for anyone who doesn't want their personal preferences changed. 

This is more about what the site determines is the default skin to show to regular viewers. 

[[User:Results May Vary]] has made Kirby-fied versions of [https://wikirby.com/w/index.php?title=Kirby_Wiki&useskin=monobook Monobook] and [https://wikirby.com/w/index.php?title=Kirby_Wiki&useskin=timeless Timeless], so you can test out when you have a moment. 

Please make sure, when testing them out, to also include testing them in different browsers, on mobile and desktop, and more. 

Thank you, 
[[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] ([[User talk:Tacopill|talk]]) 03:27, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
:I like Monobook more than Timeless, but I do think the general style is an improvement over the existing design. The pink colors and star pattern feel more fitting for a Kirby wiki than solid blue. [[User:Scrooge200|Scrooge200]] ([[User talk:Scrooge200|talk]]) 03:51, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
::Monobook is my preferred design interface. It just screams "Kirby" information in one easy to access and convenient place! &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy17|Owencrazyboy17]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy17|talk]]) 04:04, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
:::I prefer Monobook over Timeless as well, but if Tacopill makes Timeless the default skin, i don't mind. Otherwise i prefer monobook [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 04:07, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
::::Like the others, I prefer Monobook over Timeless, mainly due to the cleaner look of the main page with Monobook active. Feel free to use timeless if it's easier though. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 06:42, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
:::::How long should it be until the final decision is made? In 1-2 weeks' time? [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 23:26, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
::::::Probably one week, like the proposals on Mario Wiki. {{User:Obsessive Mario Fan/sig}} 01:19, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
:Like everyone else, I like Monobook the most. It's the style I mainly use. {{User:Obsessive Mario Fan/sig}} 21:12, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
::While MonoBook is my favorite, this wiki's layout isn't very friendly to my device at all, and as such Vector is the skin I use most.  I don't really care too much for Vector, but it's the only one my device can tolerate. -[[User:YoshiFlutterJump|<span style="color:#0a0">YFJ</span>]] ([[User talk:YoshiFlutterJump|<span style="color:#0a0">talk</span>]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/YoshiFlutterJump|<span style="color:#0a0">edits</span>]]) 01:18, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
:::I was going to go with "until consensus is established", but one week does sound reasonable. 
:::And there's been requests on I've gotten from various people for WiKirby-fied Vector and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Nimbus Nimbus] skins (the latter of which was requested by a person from Halopedia). 
:::If I remember correctly: Monobook was one of the original skins built for the MediaWiki software, and was their default for years. It was eventually replaced as the default with Vector, due to Vector having more [https://www.w3.org/standards/webdesign/accessibility accessibility] built in from the start, instead of being added on later.  But similar to Monobook, it wasn't designed with something in mind that later skins were; that being natively designed for Mobile devices, which as of [https://www.statista.com/statistics/277125/share-of-website-traffic-coming-from-mobile-devices/ 2017 represented 50% or more of all internet traffic in the world] and as of [https://developers.google.com/search/mobile-sites/mobile-first-indexing July 2019 Google's new prefrence in determining search rankings]. 
:::Fire Emblem Wiki switched over to Timeless since it is built with mobile in mind, and we then installed it on all the wikis we host that didn't have it. Sometime later, I saw RMV working on Monobook and then asked him to do Timeless due to the aforementioned outdatedness of the WiKirby skin. It not being designed for mobile hasn't helped much either, but hopefully switching will help the wiki improve its rankings. 
:::Now that everyone has had a chance to express an opinion, Monobook seems to be the most popular option for the default skin. I've given some new information on things, should anyone want to change their mind, now is their chance. You have until 03:27, 8 August 2019 (UTC) to voice opposition if you have them. {{unsigned|Tacopill|12:07, 3 August 2019}}
::::Monobook is optimized for mobile starting with versions 1.32. You can see [https://zeldawiki.info Triforce Wiki] to see what i mean (it looks good on mobile), so similar could be adapted for here [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 13:09, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
::If my input should matter and be valid, I'd stay with WikirbyClassic, but I do like Monobook minus minor issues (like "excessive pink" in literal, as in my thoughts it could be better with light blue or other cool color) and content layout ''leftovers'' or otherwise bad formatting itself. There you go, half a vote for the classic and other half for MonoBook, though'd be better if the classic could be improved 'cos I like some things other skins don't provide same way. —[[User:Viperision|Viperision]] ([[User talk:Viperision|talk]]) 18:01, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
I personally prefer Monobook, but just because it's what I'm used to. [[User:Pinkyoshifan|Pinkyoshifan]] ([[User talk:Pinkyoshifan|talk]]) 18:32, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
:I also prefer Monobook. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 15:31, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
::The change has been implemented. Thanks for all who voiced their opinions. [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] ([[User talk:Tacopill|talk]]) 01:26, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
:::You are welcome thank you for allowing the community to voice their opinions & accommodating for the editors :) [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 05:39, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

== Allowing IP edits ==

With all these forthcoming changes finally coming to WiKirby, I have another proposal. How about around the same time we change to Monobook, we can open up editing to IP addresses. While IPs can make unconstructive edits like removing text, they can also help with making minor fixes on articles. In my opinion, they are often casual readers who read the articles and make minor corrections to them. If they are allowed to edit, we should make them answer the captcha questions to better protect against automated spam. Super Mario Wiki allows IP addresses to edit. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 22:24, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

== 'Shroom? ==

Not sure where to put this, so... This is just a thought, but what if we had a newspaper on the WiKirby, something like The Mario Wiki's 'Shroom? I just think it would be neat to have something like that. [[User:Magolor04726|Magolor04726]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 01:01, 4 March 2020 (UTC)Magolor04726
:Considering the current activity on this wiki, we might be able to make a small version of that, but nothing quite as big as the 'Shroom.  But if there's enough demand and enough people willing to write it, then it's absolutely possible.  I like the idea personally, and I'd definitely be willing to help with that. -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 01:49, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::I actually write for the 'Shroom, and if we get our own version here, I could either put the story I'm working on here as well, or maybe even make a spin-off series. Check that, I just had a brilliant idea for a spin-off series, and now I really want a newspaper here. I'd definitely be willing to help as much as I can. Should we bring up a proposal for this? [[User:Magolor04726|Magolor04726]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 01:52, 4 March 2020 (UTC)Magolor04726
:::Mmm, I think it'd take a lot more than a proposal.  I think a lot of planning would be necessary for something like this.  I'd like to see what Fubaka thinks of this idea; he might be able to make a special interest form for this, or something along those lines.  (BTW, I actually used to write for the 'Shroom, too, if you've ever seen ''YFJ's Tips and Tricks'' in the Strategy Wing.) -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 02:00, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::::I had no idea I was talking with a veteran writer. So what are we going to do at the moment? [[User:Magolor04726|Magolor04726]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 02:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)Magolor04726
:::::For now, we'll just wait for more people to respond.  I'll go ahead and forward this discussion to staff chat. -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 02:55, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::So, What's the status on this? [[User:Magolor04726|Magolor04726]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 00:10, 19 March 2020 (UTC)Magolor04726
:::::::As it stands, I don't know if the wiki is active enough for that to be a continuous project, unless you are willing to helm it more-or-less by yourself. If you still want to do it, I would recommend starting small, so you don't overwork yourself. One other thing I would suggest is getting on the Discord server so you can chat with us more directly. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 00:13, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::::I don't have access to the discord. Also, despite corona, my life has pretty much stayed the same, so I can't really take the helm for something like that. [[User:Magolor04726|Magolor04726]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 01:02, 19 March 2020 (UTC)Magolor04726
People keep saying the traffic isn't high enough for a paper. Out of curiosity, is there any place I can view the traffic info, or is it restricted? [[User:Magolor04726|Magolor04726]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 03:09, 4 April 2020 (UTC)Magolor04726
:I don't know if such a thing is viewable except to the site owner.  Point is that there just aren't enough active contributors for this to become something big.  While I have bigger fish to fry right now, I am definitely planning on hosting a community poll for this soon enough, to see if we have enough interested writers to make something. -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 03:32, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Any updates on this? (I would ask YFJ on the Mario Boards, but he left them, so I thought I'd ask here.) [[User:Magolor04726|-Mags]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 01:56, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
== Recent Changes  ==

This is about [[Special:RecentChanges]] and is not a proposal that concerns the wiki's coverage as a whole. By default it has this for an interface (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/484532701509058560/692427161663045672/unknown.png), known as the "recent changes filter". A friend complained to me about it, so I felt I should bring it up with WiKirby just to see what your input is of it. At the time of writing this, WiKirby is running on MediaWiki 1.32. In the Recent Changes section of [[Special:Preferences]], you can click "Hide the improved version of Recent Changes" to change the look back to this (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/374237263045066752/692430049214726224/Screenshot_at_2020-03-25_10-49-42.png). However, the option to tick that option is not in MediaWiki 1.33. My biggest issue with the new recent changes filter is that it hides [[MediaWiki:Recentchangestext]] by default & the webpage takes longer to load with rc filter. It works for Wikipedia, but in my opinion, it does not work as well for WiKirby.

This is why I am thinking of a compromise. On Super Mario Wiki, if you look at the Recent Changes, it has an Auto-Refresh tickbox, with the older recent changes layout being enabled globally. The main new feature of the rcfilter is the ability to refresh automatically. Several users here are from Super Mario Wiki and are used to its recent changes (see [[mariowiki:Special:RecentChanges|here]] for Super Mario Wiki's recent changes). This is primarily why I am wondering what everyone's opinion on this is:

Should we disable the current recent changes design and switch to that of Super Mario Wiki (with its AutoRefresh gadget) or leave the recent changes as it is? Seeing as I frequently patrol Wikirby to see how it's progressing along, I'd vote in favor for Super Mario Wiki's recent changes to be brought over to WiKirby. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 18:17, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
:Would switching to Super Mario Wiki's implementation also make consecutive edits more visible on Recent Changes by default? I don't really like how multiple edits for the same page on WiKirby are "combined" so that it takes more clicks than necessary to view the history individually. Super Mario Wiki doesn't do that, at least by default, which makes it easier and faster to read for me (I know it can be toggled off as a preference on WiKirby, but I'd rather have the same setup when signed in and off because it trips me up otherwise). If not, it still sounds like it's more efficient overall than the current design, so count me in as a yes. [[User:AdieuLain|AdieuLain]] ([[User talk:AdieuLain|talk]]) 16:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
::To enable the "show all changes individually", someone with server access would have to add <s><code>$wgDefaultUserOptions['usenewrc'] = 0;</code></s> to the localsettings. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 21:44, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
:I agree to replacing to the Super Mario Wiki layout (and personally like grouping preference) with the auto-refresh checkbox. New one doesn't bring much, feels rather sloppy (for some displays) and seemingly takes longer to reload. Not sure if Tag filtering could also have a dropdown list of default tags (instead of having to type [[Special:Tags]] manually)? —[[User:Viperision|Viperision]] ([[User talk:Viperision|talk]]) 07:05, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
::I agree with the change.  The old design is just...better.  It loads faster, too. -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 01:43, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
:::Same here. &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy17|Owencrazyboy17]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy17|talk]]) 02:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
::::Ok so this is only a backend issue but looks like <code>$wgDefaultUserOptions['rcenhancedfilters-disable'] = 1;</code> actually disables the rcfilter. The code i previously posted just doesnt automatically collapse everything under (2 changes) or (3 changes) or under an upload log if an action is done more than once. The previous code is just here for reference. The proposal has passed, and rcfilters have been disabled for the WiKirby community. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 01:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

== User talk ==

I dunno if this is the right place to ask, but is it possible to restrict not-autoconfirmed users from creating pages in "User talk" namespace? If think such change should be made. There's not much takeback if they don't have it, as these pages are automatically created by [[User:Kirbot|Kirbot]] (and are only deleted if user is permabanned, which means there is no reason to recreate them) and would prevent ''that vandal'' from vandalizing further. If this change is too big, I can make a proposal. {{User:Superbound/sig}} 13:04, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
:I completely understand why we would want to do this, but then [https://wikirby.com/w/index.php?title=Crusher&action=history they'll just target mainspace], which is arguably worse. {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 13:09, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
::You two both have good points. While I think we could possibly also restrict creating user talk pages even further, vandals will just always find new ways to do vandalism. I'm curious about what others think, however. {{User:Gigi/sig}} 13:11, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
:::Well, if thing's eventually look dicey, we could just prevent anonymous users from editing outright for some time as a last resort. &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy17|Owencrazyboy17]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy17|talk]]) 17:17, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
::::'''@Pinkyoshifan''' Yea, you're right
::::'''@Owen''' It this particular case, it wouldn't stop him/her, because he/she would be still able to create account, which would stop nothing. I don't disabling account creation outright is a good idea - look at Golden Sun Universe, it's a desert due to lack of new users.
::::Also, can some answer "''is it possible to restrict not-autoconfirmed users from creating pages in "User talk" namespace''" from my original comment? {{User:Superbound/sig}} 11:03, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
:Sure, now with the way things are headed, restricting anonymous users' editing capabilities won't help that much. But I was thinking recently that, as an actual last resort option, we could either disable account creation or protect every page for autoconfirmed users and higher only for a few days and see what happens. &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy17|Owencrazyboy17]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy17|talk]]) 22:16, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
::Vandals have moved to mainspace now, so my original request is now outdated.

::'''@Owen''' I agree that restricting account creation should be last resort possibility, but what can we ''now'' to stop it or at least slow down.

::"''[...] we could either disable account creation or protect every page for autoconfirmed users and higher only for a few days and see what happens.''"

::What is the difference between first and second option? Both seem to achieve the same result, option 2 just seems more complicated?

::...Anyway, I need more people input on this. {{User:Superbound/sig}} 12:00, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
:::{{Quote|What is the difference between first and second option? Both seem to achieve the same result, option 2 just seems more complicated?|Superbound, here}}
:::The first option would still allow ips to edit mainspace, but not make new accounts (and therefore make user talk pages). The second option essentially locks the wiki unless you had an account before it happened (although instead of protecting every page, it would likely be easier to just revoke edit rights from all users and give them to autoconfirmed). Personally, I don't think it's too big of an issue since an admin ping in the discord usually takes care of the problem quickly, but I can see how it would annoy the admins themselves, so I'm not sure what we should do, if anything a this point.  {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 12:40, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
::::I know it's not an issue, but it's getting quite annoying. I'm not sure myself if we ''can'' do anything with exception of the "last resort protection", which I don't think we should use now. Still waiting for more feedback. {{User:Superbound/sig}} 13:12, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

== Site News ==

Why are there two periods in the second sentence of the current site news? [[User:Magolor04726|-Mags]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 19:30, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
:Just a small typo. It can be fixed in a jiffy. --[[User:Samwell|Samwell]] ([[User talk:Samwell|talk]]) 19:33, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

== Permission non-error ==

I created an article without reading the WiKirby creating article guides. {{unsigned|141.101.98.140|12:39, November 18, 2020 (UTC)}}
:<small>*gasp* How evil...</small> But seriously, neither your [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.140|contributions]] or [[Special:Moderation|moderation log]] don't show you creating any new non-talk pages. Are you sure you really created this page? Perhaps you created it by different IP? Also I recommend you to read our [[Help:Contents|guildlines]] and create account anyway, because it can help you.  {{User:Superbound/sig}} 13:52, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

==Here's A Question:==
If I'm not mistaken, this is the page to talk to other users, or to communicate problems or questions about WiKirby?
If I am, then what is the page for that purpose? If I am not, then that is preferable, but how will I preform such action? Thank you.
--FoxPlays3 0fficial
:You're not mistaken; This is the page where we talk about the main page, or the wiki in general.<br>To send messages here, just type on a new line, and sign your comment with '''<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>''' at the end. If you're replying to someone, add a colon (''':''') before your message to indent it. {{User:Obsessive Mario Fan/sig}} 02:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

== Just a thought, BUT... ==

I'm wondering if Critical Reception should be added as a regular thing to most Kirby games' pages. I got the idea from the Mario Wiki and I just thought it would be a neat idea. IDK, just thought I'd throw it out there. [[User:Magolor04726|-Mags]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 03:05, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
:Some game pages have it already, but it really hasn't been a priority for us recently, partly because Kirby games tend not to receive much reception compared to other Nintendo games. That said, I don't think anyone would oppose you if you wanted to add more reception sections to game pages. Just make sure to use reputable sources and remain objective when doing so. --[[User:Samwell|Samwell]] ([[User talk:Samwell|talk]]) 04:27, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
::I doubt we need such a section. It's okay if we do, but other rating aggregators (like Metacritic) do the same job well already. These reviews are no different to anyone's own opinion, which could lead us to cherry-picking favorable ones. {{User:Viperision/sig}} 12:46, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
::While it does sound interesting, it's not like every Kirby game has something bad about it. And even if so, those negative rating would most likely be a personal opinion and not a thought-out claim. So should this be a thing for Kirby game pages? Yes. Do all Kirby games have a bad review? No. So maybe just have these kinds of sections for articles that need it.--[[User:Marx4Smash|Marx4Smash]] ([[User talk:Marx4Smash|talk]]) 21:19, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

== The Smash Bros. Pages Need To Be Better ==

-Hi there; just letting everyone know how good of a job they're doing... BUT, I do believe that we could have more info on the pages involving Smash Bros. For instance, I realized that none of the Stages have an article or even a description. I have other things to work on (correcting grammar), so if someone could make pages and/or descriptions on the Kirby Stages in Smash, that would be nice!--[[User:Marx4Smash|Marx4Smash]] ([[User talk:Marx4Smash|talk]]) 21:04, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

P.S. : If there ARE articles or sections for said Stages, PLEASE let me know so I can make a link to those pages.--[[User:Marx4Smash|Marx4Smash]] ([[User talk:Marx4Smash|talk]]) 21:04, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
:We don't go too in-depth with ''Smash''-specific pages because SmashWiki exists and will fulfill that purpose better than we can. That said, I agree we probably should at least have stage pages. [[User:StarPunch|StarPunch]] ([[User talk:StarPunch|talk]]) 17:22, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

:We are a ''Kirby'' wiki, not a ''Smash Bros.'' wiki, so we cover the ''Kirby'' content from ''Smash'', but we don't go on full details on things like stages and such. Stages are already covered in general in pages such as [[Fountain of Dreams]], and if we need to link to somewhere with more details, then we can link to SmashWiki.

:(Was typing this as StarPunch posted; I personally don't see the need for separate pages for Stages.) {{User:Gigi/sig}} 17:26, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

::Now that you mention it, your logic does make sense. But there was an incorrect fact involving the Star Rod in SSB4.(about Captain Falcon firing 5 shots(IT'S NOT MELEE ANYMORE.)) I'm not saying to add stage pages; I just thought that the Smash Bros. pages were really sloppy. Someone needs to clean up the 'Ultimate' page. AGAIN, I respect your opinion as a veteran member of this wiki, so I'll only edit what should be.--[[User:Marx4Smash|Marx4Smash]] ([[User talk:Marx4Smash|talk]]) 21:04, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

:::For clarification, there's nothing wrong with fixing mistakes in the wiki; they happen from time to time, and the Smash Bros. pages in particular may have some errors as that's not our focus, and mistakes are easier to be missed in them. You are more than welcome to go ahead and edit them. We were just wondering if it made sense to make separate pages for the Smash Bros. stages in this wiki. {{User:Gigi/sig}} 15:10, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

::OK, how about this; while there are links to the stages on Smash wiki, we could also include a link to the stages' origin destination on this wiki.--[[User:Marx4Smash|Marx4Smash]] ([[User talk:Marx4Smash|talk]]) 13:49, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

== Is this an easter egg? ==

I had an edit that got deleted, but I wasn't thinking when I posted. It was in the Trivia section of ''Halberd''. If you know what I'm talking about, either confirm or decline my theory, because looking back it was a very dumb theory that I didn't do a whole lot of research into. (Please don't be rude about declining it, just say that my theory wasn't correct.) Again, even I thought it wasn't that plausible. If no one has a decent reply, we''should'' maybe look into this.--[[User:Marx4Smash|Marx4Smash]] ([[User talk:Marx4Smash|talk]]) 21:20, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
:All of [[Special:Diff/254604|this]] is already mentioned on [[Revenge of Meta Knight#Trivia]]. {{User:Vipz/sig}} 22:51, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

::Cool. I thought it was dumb at first, but I'm happy to hear that my idea was not only correct, but it was put on the wiki '''before''' I thought of it. --[[User:Marx4Smash|Marx4Smash]] ([[User talk:Marx4Smash|talk]]) 12:24, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

:::Since I was the one that specifically deleted it, let me just explain better why. While your general idea wasn't wrong, it implied that many appearances of the Halberd specifically referenced ''Kirby's Adventure'', not taking into account the first game in which the Halberd appeared, ''Kirby Super Star'', and how that game also had an "orange ocean". In short, it was fairly vague, so I felt it would be best to just not mention it in the page. I see now the trivia in the Revenge of Meta Knight page, and I feel that is worded way better, and in a more appropriate article. {{User:Gigi/sig}} 15:18, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

== Holiday skin as an annual thing ==

It happened last year as a [[WiKirby:Proposals/Archive#Modifying the website for a Christmas theme (December 3, 2020 - December 10, 2020)|result of a proposal]] so I'm proposing to have the site reskinned for winter holidays on a yearly basis. I've found the old code posted on [[User:YoshiFlutterJump/Christmas Theme CSS|YFJ's userpage]] and modified [[User:Vipz/monobook.css|for]] [[User:Vipz/common.css|myself]] to [https://imgur.com/a/mC6aB4M look like this]. I've asked on Discord and some of you liked it, but asking it here will probably yield concrete responses. We should also look into implementing [[User:Lakelimbo/Sandbox/Main_page|Lakelimbo's mainpage improvements]] when it's ready. Thanks, and happy holidays! {{User:Vipz/sig}} 01:30, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
:While I am not against this skin, I would rather for it to be something that is set manually rather than global for everyone. Sure, this time of the year is generally associated with winter, but that is not a global thing (it's summer here in the Southern Hemisphere, hi), and WiKirby has people from all over the planet. So if we did this, I would prefer if it was a separate skin that people can choose.
:Regardless of the above, however, the skin you posted has some things I would like to be changed. The backgrounds of "Did you know" and NIWA templates make their text really hard to read, and the background of the "New and Upcoming Games" is too busy for my eyes. Before it goes live, regardless of the format it goes, I would ask to please change these.
:Finally, this opens the question: will this theme only become available this time of the year? Can anyone just love this and use it all year? Are we going to make more seasonal skins? If so, how are we going to decide on themes to be inclusive for WiKirby editors? {{User:Gigi/sig}} 01:58, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
::I see, sorry for not accounting the southern hemisphere. Only visitors with an account can use custom CSS, which is why I proposed for it to be global, but now I agree. I think we could have a page akin to [[Help:Userboxes]] with a list of custom skins, and possibly a mention that they exist somewhere on the main page (sitenotice). {{User:Vipz/sig}} 03:01, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
::Editors could perhaps submit/list their own themes but not too many. {{User:Vipz/sig}} 03:05, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

== Addition of [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategoryTree|Extension:CategoryTree]] ==

This extension is used on many wikis, including from Wikimedia and NIWA. I think it would be a really useful extension to have for [[:Category:Pages needing attention|maintenance categories]], among all others, to have categories display basic information such as a number of pages, files and subcategories contained in them, as well as ability to see and navigate subcategories within the same page. Posting here to garner formal community and admin support for [[User:Ampera]] to install/enable this extension, as it's likely to be lost in conversations on the Discord server. {{User:Vipz/sig}} 00:40, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
:It adds the ability of both seeing how many pages/categories are in a category, and to see which categories are inside another one without the need of opening the page of the root category. Those functions seem really useful to me, both on editor's side and on reader's side, plus that it doesn't seem that it breaks things. It is very useful, and if it indeed doesn't come with any downsides, I support adding it. -[[User:Kirbeat|Kirbeat]] ([[User talk:Kirbeat|talk]]) 01:29, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
::I've talked about this with Vipz in the past, so I definitely support having it added. --[[User:Samwell|Samwell]] ([[User talk:Samwell|talk]]) 01:31, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
:::Support, although I'm curious why it's here and not not a formal proposal. {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 10:59, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
::::Regular proposals usually involve changes to policies or removal of something used on mainspace articles. This feature changes nothing in that sense, it just gives more info about categories, and as such is a minor addition. I can make it into a proposal if one has to be made. {{User:Vipz/sig}} 11:16, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
:::Also support on this. {{User:Superbound/sig}} 19:26, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

== General disclaimer ==

So, we have [[WiKirby:General disclaimer|General disclaimer]], but the page, despite being important, is hidden from the users (allegedly, [[User:Kirbeat|Kirbeat]] didn't know it was a thing until recently and he's a staff). It's only linked on the [[Help:Contents|content page]] and in the help navbox, in both cases among other links, thus making it hardly noticeable. I propose we add mention of it to "About Us" on the Main Page or at least at the top of previously mentioned content page. What do you all think? {{User:Superbound/sig}} 19:26, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
:It's also on the footer, but yeah, it needs to be more noticeable. I think the main page link should work. {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 22:03, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
::I checked the source of Help:Contents, and I didn't see the disclaimer page linked there. Although, as PYF said, the disclaimer is linked on the footer of the site, so we could argue that it is linked on literally every page, but even so I don't think that that footer is something that most people would direct their attention to. The disclaimer mentions how WiKirby isn't affiliated with Nintendo, how is that the copyright holders of the topics presented here are Nintendo and HAL, how is that the information presented here may not be 100% accurate thanks to this being something fan-driven, and how navigating through topics of old games may spoil the reader; thus, it seems to me that that disclaimer is something that should be linked on more visible pages.<br> I support that it should be linked on both the content page and on the "About Us" section of the main page, as suggested, and I also add that it should be linked on [[WiKirby:About]]. Maybe linking it on all three could be too much, but by seeing how important the disclaimer is, I would link it on all three. -[[User:Kirbeat|Kirbeat]] ([[User talk:Kirbeat|talk]]) 17:38, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
:::There's no real need to link it everywhere. Putting a note in the "About Us" box on the mainpage is enough and virtually no one will miss to read it. [[WiKirby:About]] deals with the history of the wiki - if someone is reading that page, there's a 99% chance they've already read the whole main page because they're interested in the wiki. {{User:Vipz/sig}} 18:52, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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 Why is the front page bearing the title "Kirby Wiki"? The wiki's name is '''Wi'''Kirby [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 20:39, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
 :Because people don't search Google for 'WiKirby'. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 02:11, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
-well i do --[[User:AJOWiKirby|AJOWiKirby]] ([[User talk:AJOWiKirby|talk]]) 18:52, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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 Thank you,
 [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] ([[User talk:Tacopill|talk]]) 03:27, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
-:I like Monobook more than Timeless, but I do think the general style is an improvement over the existing design. The pink colors and star pattern feel more fitting for a Kirby wiki than solid blue. [[User:Former Patroller|Former Patroller]] ([[User talk:Former Patroller|talk]]) 03:51, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
+:I like Monobook more than Timeless, but I do think the general style is an improvement over the existing design. The pink colors and star pattern feel more fitting for a Kirby wiki than solid blue. [[User:Scrooge200|Scrooge200]] ([[User talk:Scrooge200|talk]]) 03:51, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 ::Monobook is my preferred design interface. It just screams "Kirby" information in one easy to access and convenient place! &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy17|Owencrazyboy17]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy17|talk]]) 04:04, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 :::I prefer Monobook over Timeless as well, but if Tacopill makes Timeless the default skin, i don't mind. Otherwise i prefer monobook [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 04:07, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
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 This extension is used on many wikis, including from Wikimedia and NIWA. I think it would be a really useful extension to have for [[:Category:Pages needing attention|maintenance categories]], among all others, to have categories display basic information such as a number of pages, files and subcategories contained in them, as well as ability to see and navigate subcategories within the same page. Posting here to garner formal community and admin support for [[User:Ampera]] to install/enable this extension, as it's likely to be lost in conversations on the Discord server. {{User:Vipz/sig}} 00:40, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
-:It adds the ability of both seeing how many pages/categories are in a category, and to see which categories are inside another one without the need of opening the page of the root category. Those functions seem really useful to me, both on editor's side and on reader's side, plus that it doesn't seem that it breaks things. It is very useful, and if it indeed doesn't come with any downsides, I support adding it. {{User:Kirbeat/sig}} 01:29, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
+:It adds the ability of both seeing how many pages/categories are in a category, and to see which categories are inside another one without the need of opening the page of the root category. Those functions seem really useful to me, both on editor's side and on reader's side, plus that it doesn't seem that it breaks things. It is very useful, and if it indeed doesn't come with any downsides, I support adding it. -[[User:Kirbeat|Kirbeat]] ([[User talk:Kirbeat|talk]]) 01:29, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 ::I've talked about this with Vipz in the past, so I definitely support having it added. --[[User:Samwell|Samwell]] ([[User talk:Samwell|talk]]) 01:31, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 :::Support, although I'm curious why it's here and not not a formal proposal. {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 10:59, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
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 So, we have [[WiKirby:General disclaimer|General disclaimer]], but the page, despite being important, is hidden from the users (allegedly, [[User:Kirbeat|Kirbeat]] didn't know it was a thing until recently and he's a staff). It's only linked on the [[Help:Contents|content page]] and in the help navbox, in both cases among other links, thus making it hardly noticeable. I propose we add mention of it to "About Us" on the Main Page or at least at the top of previously mentioned content page. What do you all think? {{User:Superbound/sig}} 19:26, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 :It's also on the footer, but yeah, it needs to be more noticeable. I think the main page link should work. {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 22:03, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
-::I checked the source of Help:Contents, and I didn't see the disclaimer page linked there. Although, as PYF said, the disclaimer is linked on the footer of the site, so we could argue that it is linked on literally every page, but even so I don't think that that footer is something that most people would direct their attention to. The disclaimer mentions how WiKirby isn't affiliated with Nintendo, how is that the copyright holders of the topics presented here are Nintendo and HAL, how is that the information presented here may not be 100% accurate thanks to this being something fan-driven, and how navigating through topics of old games may spoil the reader; thus, it seems to me that that disclaimer is something that should be linked on more visible pages.<br> I support that it should be linked on both the content page and on the "About Us" section of the main page, as suggested, and I also add that it should be linked on [[WiKirby:About]]. Maybe linking it on all three could be too much, but by seeing how important the disclaimer is, I would link it on all three. {{User:Kirbeat/sig}} 17:38, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
+::I checked the source of Help:Contents, and I didn't see the disclaimer page linked there. Although, as PYF said, the disclaimer is linked on the footer of the site, so we could argue that it is linked on literally every page, but even so I don't think that that footer is something that most people would direct their attention to. The disclaimer mentions how WiKirby isn't affiliated with Nintendo, how is that the copyright holders of the topics presented here are Nintendo and HAL, how is that the information presented here may not be 100% accurate thanks to this being something fan-driven, and how navigating through topics of old games may spoil the reader; thus, it seems to me that that disclaimer is something that should be linked on more visible pages.<br> I support that it should be linked on both the content page and on the "About Us" section of the main page, as suggested, and I also add that it should be linked on [[WiKirby:About]]. Maybe linking it on all three could be too much, but by seeing how important the disclaimer is, I would link it on all three. -[[User:Kirbeat|Kirbeat]] ([[User talk:Kirbeat|talk]]) 17:38, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 :::There's no real need to link it everywhere. Putting a note in the "About Us" box on the mainpage is enough and virtually no one will miss to read it. [[WiKirby:About]] deals with the history of the wiki - if someone is reading that page, there's a 99% chance they've already read the whole main page because they're interested in the wiki. {{User:Vipz/sig}} 18:52, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
-::::I agree having it on just "About Us" and [[WiKirby:About]] would be fine. The policies on [[Help:Contents]] prioritize the ones related to wiki-editing, and keep the rest in the navbox. [[User:StarPunch|StarPunch]] ([[User talk:StarPunch|talk]]) 01:34, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
-== Something funky going on with the poll ==
-Been logged out for a bit for some reason and when I voted in the most recent poll (Kirby's Dream Buffet is out! How are you liking it?), my vote kept changing from option to option every time I hopped back on the site. I don't know how much of an issue this is or if it has been happening with logged in users, but I thought I'd drop this here as a general heads up in case it's a bigger issue (also I logged in and voted just to see what will happen with my vote). [[User:Magolor04726|-Mags]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 04:26, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
-:Yeah, I suspect the wiki's ongoing caching issues are affecting the polling system. I suspect we'll probably want to retire it soon until things are sorted out/people are more interested in the poll again, since not many people are using it anyways. --[[User:Samwell|Samwell]] ([[User talk:Samwell|talk]]) 10:32, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
-::The poll receives about 30 votes on average and I think it's just a good way to see how many participatory visitors WiKirby has, so I think it should not be retired. It was placed there to take up empty space in the first place. The cache problems will eventually be solved, but outright removing polls would create more issues than it would solve. {{User:Vipz/sig}} 11:29, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
-:::Well, I do have an idea of what it could be replaced with. Might be a proposal pretty soon. The thing to note is that the poll doesn't necessarily gauge overall traffic to the wiki; just how many people are willing to "engage" with the front page. From my reckoning, it's really not that much more than the WiKirby regulars who use it anyways, so it's not really doing much right now. --[[User:Samwell|Samwell]] ([[User talk:Samwell|talk]]) 11:34, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
-== Hello great website i have 2 questions  ==
-do you think you could make some stuff about the new mecha kirby copy ability? 2 I'm having trouble making a account idk if it takes a while but i would like some help please. and i'm trying to get this chat group lively since the last thing posted was like 2018-2019 anyways i just wanted to thank you guys because im making a slide show about every copy ability! Me and my friend are getting the pictures from this website you guys are helping us out a lot we already have 30+ kirbys in it and some that we made! I hope you read this
-Im the guy who just sent something out saying nothing has been talked about since 2018-2019 i didn't scroll down sorry just wanted you to hear that {{unsigned|136.228.217.68}}
-:Hello. We have a page on the [[Mecha]] ability already. Unfortunately, there's not a whole lot more to say than what's there already. There's not any official art available of the ability yet, and we probably won't get any until the next trailer at least.
-:Also, just to note, this talk page is not a "chat" group. We do have a [https://discord.gg/4y9BPyj Discord server] if you want to join that, however.
-:I can see two account requests in the queue at this time, but neither of them have had their e-mails confirmed. We typically do not approve accounts until that happens. Make sure you check your e-mail to see if you got a message from WiKirby asking to confirm your account. It may have ended up in the spam folder. Let me know if you have any other questions. --[[User:Samwell|Samwell]] ([[User talk:Samwell|talk]]) 16:56, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
-Ok thanks for letting me know this is kinda weird I have never talked to a dev of a website before,thank you i will be checking out that discord server!                Well its me again i don't see it in my email and its not in my spam folder {{unsigned|97.64.61.225}}
-== What is the difference between autoconfirmed and autopatrol? ==
-They have the same requirements, 5 edits and be registered for a day. Whats the difference? {{unsigned|MeltanFlood}}
-:So, I'm not sure where you got the idea that they have the same requirements, because they do not. The prerequisite 5 edits and a day is how you become Autoconfirmed. Autopatrol is the next step up, where a user no longer needs to have their edits patrolled and is allowed to vote on proposals. The "requirements" for Autopatrol are less clear and cut. Basically, you just have to demonstrate that you make good contributions to the wiki and stay out of trouble, and show a decent level of activity, and a staff member will award it to you at some point. We monitor all wiki contributions via the [[Special:RecentChanges|recent changes]] log, and get live updates on the Discord server, so we'll see how you are faring on the wiki. Hope this makes things clearer. Also, when posting in a talk page, you need to sign your name to any of your posts. Do that by typing four tildes at the end of your post (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). Thank you. --[[User:Samwell|Samwell]] ([[User talk:Samwell|talk]]) 16:20, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
-Thank you :) [[User:MeltanFlood|MeltanFlood]] ([[User talk:MeltanFlood|talk]]) 04:58, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
-==Bandana Dee==
-hey every one today I'm talking about bandana dee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-well... he cute for #one. for #two like OMG that bandana so cool.
-for #three and his spear so sharp! so yeah thats all I know laters!!!!!!! {{Unsigned|199.175.28.65}}
-:Hi there. Wiki talk pages aren't really for this kind of thing. We usually use talk pages for more formal matters. If you'd like to talk more casually, our [[WiKirby:Discord|Discord server]] is a good place to go. :) -- {{User:Jellytost♡/sig}} 18:18, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
-==Article on Prima Games==
-I feel that there needs to be one about this. The former game guide writer/publisher, but no longer does so. While known for writing print guides for a variety of games and franchises, they only wrote guides for two Kirby games: [[Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards]] and [[Kirby's Epic Yarn]]. The former is known for having one infamous error: While the guide showed how to obtain every shard in the game, it stopped at the bad ending and did not cover Dark Star at all. It also incorrectly called [[0²|02]] a "benevolent creature in the clouds of Shiver Star that poses no threat".
-No other Kirby games have got any guides from Prima, and the reasons for this remain unknown. AKA the very root of [Japanese title] on here. People underestimate just how important those guides (or lack thereof in this case) really were. [[User:BooDestroyer|BooDestroyer]] ([[User talk:BooDestroyer|talk]]) 18:50, 5 September 2023 (UTC)