Talk:Kirby Wiki

Dungeons

Should we replace the link to Dungeons with a link to Copy Abilities? I cannot remember any dungeons in the Kirby series and the Copy Abilities seem more integral to the games to me. - Edofenrir 21:10, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

good catch.. I just made minor tweaks to what we have at ZW. Axiomist

Official names

I played CS and I remember pretty much of it, the problem is, I would add all stuff I know, but I cant remember any official name.... SHould I create them under a cconjectural name?? The Tuck

I suppose that could work, you could port over ZW's conjectural title template. Aren't you in skype too? We could probably use your SMW knowledge of templates and policies to help here. Axiomist 16:45, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Affiliates banner

Perhaps we can have one in the Main Page, I really like ZW's one. The one with circles and the page names. --Tucayo 04:35, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that would be great! We should ask around to see who's willing to affiliate from just the site owners we personally know until after our official launch. Which will be after Valentine's Day sometime. ;) Axiomist 08:40, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Coming soon?

Whats coming soon? More articles? On an unrelated note, I will create the special power ups articles tomorrow, exams are over :D --Tucayo 02:54, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

I would say pretty much everything. Of course, it would be wise to set up all the important stuff up [Ex: Featured Content, which I think it nearly done], and such important pages could be listed. —Austin ^{(NIWA Operative)} 02:59, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Whoops

Just made my account, and realised I wanted to be called LuKirbio. (I hate it when that happens!) Can an admin please fix. I'll be a frequent user, as I have all DS kirby games and the First NES one. LuKirbio 18:37, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Fraid not. We don't have the Rename User extension, yet. If you'll wait it out for a bit, though, I'll request that we install it.^_Neo^{(U) (T) (C)(Home)} 20:39, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Cool name choice, as soon as we get it installed, you get to be our test run :P Thanks for joining and editing! Axiomist 05:55, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Ball

I tried creating the article for the copy ability and Kirby's form in Canvas Curse, which had its links at "ball". However, when I tried creating it, this message showed up: The title "Ball" has been banned from creation. It matches the following blacklist entry: [Bb][Aa4][Ll1][Ll1]. What is that blacklist entry and should the links be moved so that the article can be created? ナエトル A or Turtwig A My talk and my contributions 22:12, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Whoops. The blacklist is used to prevent people from creating obscene articles and such. Ball is blocked from creation because it's one of those things. Just hold on a bit and we'll get an admin to remove it from the blacklist so the page can be made :)^_Neo^{(U) (T) (C)(Home)} 22:24, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I can see why. But what about when it is created? Wouldn't it be prone to vandalism? ナエトル A or Turtwig A My talk and my contributions 23:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

That doesn't matter. Everything here can be exposed to vandalism if it's not protected. If a vandal comes along, I, or another staff member will deal with him/her. —Austin ^{(NIWA Operative)} 00:20, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Pictures

Can't upload them. Get message saying "This file has no extention (like jpg.)" I've tried the same file as JPG, jpeg and png, what's wrong? LuKirbio 17:25, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Could you paste exactly what your are trying in here? Axiomist 17:36, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Paste? You mean with photobucket or something? I'm 11, can't go on that. LuKirbio 17:37, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I mean, thisimage.png or whatever it is your are trying to add. Axiomist 17:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

*SNAPS FINGERS* Oh no big mistake! Forgot to add .png to the new location URL. Sorry. LuKirbio 18:13, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

.png is used for images that have transparency and are small, .jpg is for photos, and so on... I'll ask Steve to create the page defining which is best for what type of image. But they aren't all the same, bc the wrong file type could blur the images. Axiomist 18:22, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Already uploaded, and it requires transparency done to it, but I can't do that. Can someone do it for me. Just need the words, Kirby and the cake. It's at File:YumCake.png thanks. LuKirbio 18:25, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Super Smash Bros. series

Should the games in the Super Smash Bros. series get articles? They are related to the Kirby series; Kirby is in all three while Meta Knight and King Dedede are in SSBB. If so, should the modes get articles? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 02:21, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Smash content should be minimized, bc a spill over is likely, so only the Kirby related stuff in a single article should suffice.

• Introduction
  • Games info
• Kirby Characters in Smash Bros Games
  • Kirby-games with him in it, descriptions of his moves etc..
• King Dedede
• Same deal with Kirby (and so on for others)
• Kirby Stages
  • Name/Description
• Kirby related trophies/items
  • Name/Description

etc, so no Link information, Zelda information, Mario, Snake, etc...And we should have a nice article that would get to stay here forever. I have an addition to infoboxes in mind for articles like this to link to our associated wikis. But that's on a long list of things to do.. Axiomist 05:38, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Our SSB coverage should only pertain to the Kirby related stuff, with the sole exception of the article introduction, which should give a short summary of what the game in general is about. - File:KNiD E BroomHatter.png Edofenrir^{( talk)} 06:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

By games, do you mean events? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 23:20, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

I meant Super Smash Bros Brawl, Super Smash Bros. Melee" etc. That would be a good start and if you have ideas for other stuff we could hash it out later. I'm not sure about BP and MW, but ZW for sure would be ok with the image copying for SSB. Best thing to do is credit where you pulled the image in the summary if you go forward with that. But we certainly don't want to copy from Wikia. Axiomist 23:36, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Mobile view

Okay, this page looks horrid in mobile browsers (things are cut off and disjointed.) I'll provide pics later so we can see what to do about.^_Neo^{(U) (T) (C)(Home)} 13:35, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

A mobile browser might help when I'm on my DSi or my sister's iphonetouch/pod/whatever it's called. [Call Steve!]—Austin ^{(NIWA Operative)} 18:42, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Proposals

Shouldn't Wikirby have proposals like Zelda Wiki and Bulbapedia?? 68071 (Talk)

We have several places where anyone can give us ideas: If you want to suggest something and put in on the wiki, please put it here. You can also be added to the Skype chat (WiKirby All Stars), and talk to other WiKirby editors as well as staff about some suggestions and have fun all at the same time. —Austin ^{(NIWA Operative)} 01:03, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Kirby: Nightmare in Dream Land levels' doors

How should each door in the levels of Kirby's Adventure and its remake be handled? Should they each have a separate page or be put in the level's article? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 22:20, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

I guess we can do it as a section on say the Vegetable Valley page, then as it expands take it out or something. I'm hoping to be able to get images from the game on this pc soon.Axiomist 03:53, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I don't think the areas behind the doors have enough content to fill an article, so they should be collected on the level article. If images are an issue: I have the game 100% completed, so I could make screenshots of every area if needed. - Edofenrir^{( talk)} 21:52, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Idea

On a game article, maybe we can show the ablitys and enemies in that game? I think its a good idea Joey 7:45 PM, 25 May 2010.

On my page, I am making a temporary list that compares what abilities are in what games. I was going to post it when I'm done. Not sure about the enemies though. Got any sugestions for my list? Ember Incubus 23:57, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

I should suggest needle Kirby, and the combo ablitys from Kirby 64. KirJoey 3:47 PM, 26 May 2010

All the Kirby 64 Copy Ability pages will hopefully use the K64Power template, which lists all the abilities in the game. —Austin ^{(NIWA Operative)} 19:57, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm actualy making a seperate table for KDL2, KDL3, and K64 abilities. Ember Incubus 02:09, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I finished both of the tables and put them under the Copy Ability‎ page. -- կրակ ^(խոսել) -- 00:41, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Another Idea

Maybe this will help make the NIWA co. known, why maybe make a youtube account and put reviews, game walkthroughs, and more! And it could be for any franchise that is nintendo! Whadda think, good or bad?

I think it is a good idea. Infact, we should make walkthrough videos too. -- կրակ ^(խոսել) -- 23:41, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

I think Bulbapedia has already started videos. You might want to bring this up on the NIWA site forums. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 01:32, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

I had been considering creating a Youtube account for WiKirby so we could control our own videos. The main reason I haven't done it is the obvious one, :P at this point we have so much to do and it may be unwise to take up another burden. Right now we're really lacking in still images, articles, and references. On that note, I was thinking we could consider compartmentalizing; at least temporarily. To elaborate on that, this is where I've been pulling images. it'd be cool to have someone who's WiKirby position was to mine images, source them, clean them up, transparent, compress, upload, and place in as many articles as possible.

Axiomist (talk) 06:19, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

I can help with the image situation, but I can't use transparancy. I think we should divide up the users into different asignments. That way a few could do youtube, a few can make templates/charts, a few can make articles, a few can do uploads, and a few can double check everything. -- կրակ ^(խոսել) -- 06:31, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

If you want to jump in there and get started with cropping out useful images, scanning the other manuals, etc that'd be cool. I put a link to get Gimp downloaded, I only have some basic image transparent techniques committed to memory. So some of the images of Kirby in the Squeak Squad manual were impossible for me. But yeah, it seems you catch my drift with compartmentalizing. I think we could actually cover more ground that way. For instance, when I'm working on an article if I go look for an image, I find several that we could use, my article gets a backseat and I fuss with Gimp for the rest of the day. Alternatively, if we had designated people for specific tasks, then we would function something like a real office.

Axiomist (talk) 06:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

I can use Paint.NET, but I can not use it on this comp. This compt isn;'tcompatible with transparent images for some reasons. I have a laptop that can make transparent images, but it would be atleast a week before I can. What I really want to do it templates. Do you have any templates you think we need that I can make? -- կրակ ^(խոսել) -- 06:57, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Well we have no userboxes, edit count template, and i wanted a userbox for people to say they primarily use Nintendoland.com, Kirby's Rainbow Resort, Unseen 64, Zelda Wiki, NIWA, Bulbapeia, Mario Wiki, UserOwnsGameName etc. Tho they don't seem important I think some user page flair helps retain people,

Axiomist (talk) 07:17, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, do we plan to do text based walkthroughs similar to Bulbapedia? Or are the games too simple for that to be necessary? --Stupid Name Guy, Remino52 03:42, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

I think we should take an aproach similer to Zelda Dungeon. THey had a text walkthrough along with a video walkthrough. That is one technique that I always felt Zelda Wiki lacked. (Maybe becuase t already existed withing the masterminds.) But, I also think there should be that on Wikirby. There are not very many other kirby websites that arn't spriter kirby sites except Kirby's Rainbow Resort. And even they do not go into walkthroughs. I might eventualy make a walkthrough of KAM, I can do others too but I don't have a non-ROM of those. Can anyone try doing some video walkthroughs? -- կրակ ^(խոսել) -- 04:11, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

I MIGHT be able to do a Kirby 64 Video Walkthrough. I just need to know how to organize it, and where to put it. --Stupid Name Guy, Remino52 16:00, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

I have awesome news for us. Strategy Wiki is willing to partner with us for guides and walkthroughs. This is a very awesome accomplishment, since only Zelda Wiki and Bulbapedia are currently partners. Many of their guides are undeveloped, so there's still room to create. We'll have to prepare our pages for the increased traffic from them, I think we can have infoboxes with links and external links to them in the game articles, location articles, and subgame articles. Plus I think a good addition to user pages would be some links to walkthroughs you created there. I haven't fully discussed it with them, but I'm going to say it's ok for WiKirby's images and videos to be used there too. So let's say I run through a level and record it, upload it to Youtube, place it on an article here, I'll place it there too. Our articles will document the levels themselves; whereas their articles will be walkthroughs.

I actually hadn't thought to seek out a partnership with them until I saw the messages here, just so you know I'm listening to anything I can address. I just hope you guys trust that this is the best possible way forward. We get a huge new partnership (which always helps to bring in new members), some of the walkthroughs are done, so it's not going to overwhelm anyone, and you still get to create new guides from scratch. Axiomist (talk) 05:17, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Well....

I seem to find out about there is a other Wiki about Kirby with a lot more info, althougth im sticking to this Kirby wiki, maybe we should see if they want to support us.

LINK: http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kirjoey (talk • contribs) . Please always sign your comments by typing ~~~~!

Don't worry. Wikias may seem profesional but they never last over a mounth. There may be some people visiting it and making it populer, but it will die out faster than it takes for the old man from Tell-tale Heart to rest in peace. =P It has only existed for 13 days so far. -- կրակ ^(խոսել) -- 18:43, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

So they were around since 09 and got over 10'000 articles, does that count as proof? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kirjoey (talk • contribs) . Please always sign your comments by typing ~~~~!

Not to mention, it's Wikia, it's not like it will be some huge site... --Stupid Name Guy, Remino52 19:20, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

When I checked everything in a mounth of its recent changes, I only got 13 days worth of info, not over a year. Besides, once again it is a wikia, nobody goes to those. We shan't worry about making enemies. Lets just try and improve our wiki. By the way, sign your messages. ~~~ Is just name. ~~~~ is name and time. ~~~~~ is just time. Atleast sign your name. You can customise it in the perferance page next to the loggin/loggout button. -- կրակ ^(խոսել) -- 19:37, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

But, they have been on since 07. User Talk: KirJoey

Several of the Kirby Wikia admins have signed up here, Starman, Blue NinjaKoopa, and GameFreak75. They are helping to make sure nothing is copied from their wiki and hosted here. I'll admit, I like these guys much more than I like the Zeldapedia staff. The Kirby Wikia staffers have been respectful, and Ember, you have to click some options on the Recent Changes such as show the past 500 edits in the past 30 days to see more activity level. The sad truth about Wikia is that the parent company draws in more people that want to write on talkpages, blogs, and userpages than people that want to work on articles and the wiki project itself.

I knew about them before I started this wiki, but I also knew someone would have to create a Kirby wiki for NIWA. See there's so many Kirby references in Zelda games that ZW needed someone to link to for further Kirby reading. Our choices were Wikipedia and Wikia, Wikipedia will link back to Wikia (Zeldapedia) for the corresponding Zelda information in a Kirby article, and so would the Kirby Wikia. So we'd send traffic down a one way street, what makes it worse (as evidenced by Bulbapedia's recent news) is that Wikia's owner is out to buy and delete wikis that aren't on their network. The best thing to do was to create our own Kirby wiki, and unite the independent gaming wikis. This way when Mario Wiki.com, Bulbapedia, Zelda Wiki.org, and now WiKirby insert a link for more information on another series, they'll have one back. This also helps expand our knowledge pool. I often check on the other wikis to see if they need help with anything.

We may not be as old as the Kirby Wikia site, nor have as much content, but I think WiKirby is becoming a wiki worth being respected in its own right. With enough work, one day someone will call it their favorite website! I've already gotten compliments on our Main Page and some of the articles here! Axiomist (talk) 23:03, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Also, wouldn't our domain providers have a say to what Wikia will try to do? --Stupid Name Guy, Remino52 23:20, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Domain providers? Could you elaborate on that?

Axiomist (talk) 23:29, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm kind of confused by what you mean also. If you mean it in a pride sence, like why would steal info, I think that is pretty much established. Whether or not this wikia ffects us at all, we should still try to ignore it and continue as if we never had this conversation. P.S.: I did use both 500 and 30 days. I think the reason I only got 13 daies is because they had more than 500 edits in 13 days. -- կրակ ^(խոսել) -- 23:33, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Don't we have another group who is providing us with our website? Whatever, I agree with Ember, and let's ignore it. --Stupid Name Guy, Remino52 23:38, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello, I saw this conversation so I decided to drop by, but it seems Axiomist has already solved the problem. Yeah, and Kirby Wikia has been around since 2007 like Kirjoey said.Gamefreak75 (Talk)

Ah ok, I usually determine the age of a wiki by the first main page edit. Usually the Main Page is automatically created. I don't think any of us want to steal content, some younger newer members might not realize it's inappropriate so it's something we have to look out for. Kirby Wiki.org is being squatted basically, and there's a Kirbypedia which is rather decent, but runs on Media Wiki 1.6 no extensions, and no one is allowed to edit. We somewhat sorta have support from the Kirby Rainbow Resorters, a few of their members have edited here, but I haven't been able to get ahold of Kindar Spirit, that wiki's owner. I'll try emailing her again.

Remino, there were some brief talks with Bulbapedia about WiKirby being on their host, but I opted not to and paid for the domain and hosting from my own money. I didn't want to risk being a burden on BP's server or tech team. I paid for both for a year, and will renew in January. I think the renewal fees will be cheaper than the startup ones. But I gave Adam access to everything. So if by chance I'm not around to keep it going, he likely will be. By sharing all of that, I think we're prepared for even worse case scenario.

Axiomist (talk) 00:00, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Maybe, if you people want to

Maybe we can go to my site called (to groupie up): http://www.casualcollective.com/ This might get Kirby lovers, or somewhere else in the CC to get NIWA known. Im on, though. Name: Joeyoo. Joined: 46 weeks ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KirJoey (talk • contribs) 18:41. Please always sign your comments by typing ~~~~!

Um...this seems more appropriate for your userpage. Please don't advertise on talk pages like this, because they're used to discuss article improvements. You're more than welcome to use your userpage for this, though :)^_Neo^{(U) (T) (C)(Home)} 19:12, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

First of all, to sign something with a custom Signature page, you write {{:User:KirJoey/sig}}. (But you haveto make the page first.) Second of all, I don't think we should advertise for free like that. It is the equivalint to spamming. -- կրակ ^(խոսել) -- 19:39, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

This ad isn't so bad, we all know KirJoey from the Recent Changes! He's been a highly active user! We know he's not an advertising spammer, and his message is about advertising WiKirby and NIWA. I'm interested. I'm barely going to have any time this week, But I'd still like to hear about it.

Axiomist (talk) 21:16, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Appearance sections

(Didn't really know where to put this, as it deals with multiple articles and I could not find any other place to discuss general issues like this; feel free to move this somewhere else if there's a better place for it.) I have noticed that some of the enemy/character articles on the Wiki have an "Appearance" section while others don't, which looks rather unprofessional. There should probably be a standard. In my personal opinion, these sections are not really needed, as most of them only contain one or two relevant sentences, which could just as well be put into the article introduction or another section; sections that are longer than this, like the one in the Rick article, tend to include information that has nothing to do with physical appearance (in the example, the Appearance section sums up the character's appearance in a single sentence, then proceeds to cover his in-game abilities). The second problem with these sections is that enemies/characters often change in look between individual appearances, so we would have to point out all the changes the subject has undergone in the Appearance section, which in my opinion seems a bit illogical as we already have different sections for the individual appearances of an enemy/character either way, so we could simply mention these changes in those. I would like to hear what others have to say on Appearance sections.--Vellidragon 15:53, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Sections like that are good whenever there's a need to break up the information. I've noticed many many stubs were created with 1-4 sentence statements divided into multiple sections. Such very short articles could contain things into a paragraph until someone really creates in-depth articles. I've been trying to lay some ground work down for basic pages, ok, mostly Sub Games bc I love em! I have an on-going WordPad draft for Rainbow Run, (references, details, details, and details) as soon as that's done I'm hoping to delve into some enemy page expansions. But don't wait on me guys! The best thing to do would be to find an enemy that has minimal appearances and a great article, we can stick it on the Main Page (to replace Meta Knight) and people could use it as an example on how to craft great articles for even small topics. Well I gotta get to sleep, but feel free to use your intuition and discretion for dealing with those pages for now. If you guys agree on any policy while I'm gone, I'll support it.

Axiomist (talk) 16:13, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Kirby's Epic Yarn video

I found a better video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK4gKc9OuTk&feature=related —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kirbystar9245 (talk • contribs) . Please always sign your comments by typing ~~~~!

Grammar error at the bottom

Nothing major: "It's can be a real life saver" needs to be "It can be a real life saver". BNK ^[E|T|C] 23:28, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, it's been fixed :3 (Now I just hope that wasn't the intentional sort of mistake xP)--Vellidragon 23:53, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Main Page Formatting

I don't know if I'm the only one experiencing this, but in Firefox with a resolution of 1024x768, the boxes that are supposed to be on the right (like the News box) are too wide to be displayed next to those on the left, and thus are instead displayed below them. I had not noticed this earlier as I had accidently set my zoom to less than 100% on the Main Page tab; it works then, and it also works with higher resolutions, but 100% zoom and 1024x768 screen resolution messes it up. I don't know all that much about formatting, so I'm pointing this out so someone with more knowledge in this area can perhaps fix it; 1024x768 is quite a common screen resolution, so the page should look normal when viewed that way.--Vellidragon 20:48, 23 July 2010 (UTC)