Talk:Kirby Rocket's Big Blastoff (theme)

Move to Kirby Rocket's Big Blastoff (theme)

To copy the template's reason, even though The Wild Red Yonder comes first in the Sound Room, Kirby Rocket's Big Blastoff seems to be the primary form of the theme and the other two are variants on it. In particular, it's set in major key where the other two are in minor; being associated with Kirby Rocket, it makes more sense that the heroic major key version would have come first and then the more dramatic minor key versions would have come later. Because of that, I think it makes more sense to have the article named after Kirby Rocket's Big Blastoff and to treat that as the primary version. StarPunch (talk) 04:48, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

This reasoning makes sense, but did this theme appear before the other ones? (It's been 7-8ish years since I've played this game, so I don't remember.) --Paistrie (talk) 05:03, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

The Wild Red Yonder appears first in-game as well, but that doesn't necessarily prevent the later-appearing song from being the source of the motif (i.e., the motif of The Adventure Begins first appears in the KATRC Title theme, but we still name the article after The Adventure Begins). StarPunch (talk) 05:06, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

I really don't have any opinion on this topic, I dislike KatRC music and don't want to analyze it. However, I would like to point out that Twinkle☆Traveler, and not Sudden Happy Ending (which was both composed first and is the major version) is the name we have for that theme from KSA. Make of it what you wish. ShadowKirby (t/c) a.k.a. your new overlord ShadowMagolor 05:08, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Fun fact, this article WAS originally meant to be "Kirby Rocket's Big Blastoff (theme)" when I first wrote it. I'd argue it should move to that title especially given the usage of the leitmotif in the song "Dark Crafter Battle" to represent Kirby Rocket, and the fact it's also still used as theme music (alongside "Fly to the Exit!") in the stage Back to the Battleship. I originally rewrote it to The Wild Red Yonder in agreement with what Gigi mentioned about such, knowing we currently do not know which came first (like the chicken or the dinosaur problem), but I feel at this point we're leaning to a yes for moving to the new title. --  (profile ::: talk) 12:28, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Agreed, it definitely seems like this song is meant to be associated with Kirby Rocket more than the stage that appears right before the Kirby Rocket's first use, especially considering that two of the arrangements are associated with it. ---PinkYoshiFan 15:25, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

I am really torn on this, personally. We are in the dark for this one, was we aren't sure what theme was composed first, or which theme is supposed to be the "main" one. I've always personally seen The Wild Red Yonder as the original because it comes first. But like ShadowKirby said, it's I guess not about what came first, but rather what is supposed to be the main song. So I dunno. But I will say it feels weird to say Kirby Rocket's Big Blastoff is the main one. If all transformation themes were original songs and referenced in other songs, like it's the case for stuff like Twinkle☆Traveler, sure, but it's only in Dark Crafter's theme, which doesn't mean much (I mean songs can be remixes of something else and still be referenced). I dunno. - Gigi (talk • edits) 22:29, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Again I should note that Kirby Rocket's Big Blastoff has been used again for the Kirby Rocket segments in Back to the Battleship, so that's another thing that leans to my consensus that Big Blastoff should be the main theme. I just wanted to put out this reply so I can spark discussion and hopefully not see no end to the talkpage. --  (profile ::: talk) 14:24, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

I am in agreement that Kirby Rocket's Big Blastoff was almost certainly meant as the main version of this theme. That's typically how it works in childrens' media: The major key version is what comes first and foremost. --Samwell (talk) 18:45, 26 December 2023 (UTC)