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Talk:Robo Moley
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Necessary page?[edit]
This page seems kind of useless. It just talks about the appearance of one enemy in a random Sub-Game. I don't think that there would be any reason for anyone to go to this page rather than Field Frenzy. This could very easily be merged into Field Frenzy, Moley, or Mogmole. What do you all think? --Basic Person (talk/contribs) 01:44, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- I usually base my decisions on precedent, so I decided to check for other Minigame characters, in this case Waddle Tank. I was redirected to Scope Shot, so it'd be reasonable to redirect Robo Moley to Field Frienzy and just dedicate a subsection to it. ShadowKirby (a.k.a. your new overlord ShadowMagolor) 05:09, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- We do have a page for Crap, who's also an enemy who only appears in a single sub-game, so I'm not necessarily opposed to having one for Robo Moley. StarPunch (talk) 05:43, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Technically that one can be moved, too. I guess pages would need to be found and evaluated first... We can see if any have enough info to be considered relevant. ShadowKirby (a.k.a. your new overlord ShadowMagolor) 06:35, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- We do have a page for Crap, who's also an enemy who only appears in a single sub-game, so I'm not necessarily opposed to having one for Robo Moley. StarPunch (talk) 05:43, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- I don't see why would we merge an article on a confirmed individual and obviously separate entity to another article related to it, when we aren't doing the same for Gator (Kirby Super Star) and Gator (Kirby's Epic Yarn), entities with ambigous distinctions only separated because of consensus on the talk page. And all of them are of comparable length. How does it make more sense to merge Robo Moley to anything before we merge Gators? Falling back to the argument of a Sub-Game being of lower importance is arbitrary in my opinion. –Wiz (talk · edits) 15:25, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- "...subjects that are extremely similar in appearance, behavior, or both, but officially operate under different names and identities. ... All three of these subjects are effectively the same character and fight in almost the exact same way, but since they are separate entities in-universe and operate separately, they each get their own separate articles." -Article creation policy. A robotic version of something and the thing the robot is based on are definitely separate entities and should be split as long as there's enough information about it to make a non-stub page, so this shouldn't be merged with Moley. As for whether or not sub-game exclusive enemies deserve their own pages, I'm not sure, but I feel like they should as long as we have enough info. ---PinkYoshiFan 15:54, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- I agree that merging this with another enemy page wouldn't be the best move. Moreover, I'm not sure if we want to move this to Field Frenzy just because it's a sub-game only enemy... Mass Attack in particular has many unique enemies that have pages as small as this one, such as Big Schnoz for a random example (which, actually, is even smaller than this one). If we end up merging this with Field Frenzy, we will have to go over a bunch of other minor enemy pages and maybe merge them, but I personally don't think we should. So, in my opinion, yes, this page should exist. - Gigi (talk • edits) 15:58, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- I see everyone's reasoning for why the page should continue to exist. Clearly there is reason here for why we should have the page. I just think it's a little weird that this enemy had a page compared to some other things that don't have their own page. If something like this exists, then why doesn't Bling Blipper have its own page? It falls under all of these categories. This is a unique creature that also appears in a Sub-Game, and it has a different name and identity compared to regular Blippers. I guess this must deserve a page too? My point is that this rule does not seem to be consistent across the entire wiki, and while this was the only example I was able to find of this, I'm sure that there might be more that slipped through the cracks. This page can continue to exist, but if we are going to have pages like this, then other creatures deserve their own pages, there may be more out there.
--Basic Person (talk/contribs) 20:21, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Well, let's examine. Robo Moley is a robot, Moley is a living being, whereas both Blipper and Bling Blipper are living beings. After Small, Regular, Large, Huge, isn't "Bling" supposed to just describe this particular Blipper's size? If yes, you might argue why do we have articles on all the large enemies in the series, but I find it to fit the distinctions laid out in the second paragraph. Robo Moley is exactly like Robo Bonkers or even Robo Dedede, except in final vs. sub-game boss status in their respective games. Bling Blipper cannot even be characterized as an enemy, the other three can. –Wiz (talk · edits) 22:35, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- The issue is that it really does not matter whether Bling Blipper is an enemy or not. As PYF quoted above from the article creation policy, the two creatures may closely follow the same appearance and behavior, but they do have different names and identities, and therefore, may have a page. --Basic Person (talk/contribs) 00:11, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- Well, let's examine. Robo Moley is a robot, Moley is a living being, whereas both Blipper and Bling Blipper are living beings. After Small, Regular, Large, Huge, isn't "Bling" supposed to just describe this particular Blipper's size? If yes, you might argue why do we have articles on all the large enemies in the series, but I find it to fit the distinctions laid out in the second paragraph. Robo Moley is exactly like Robo Bonkers or even Robo Dedede, except in final vs. sub-game boss status in their respective games. Bling Blipper cannot even be characterized as an enemy, the other three can. –Wiz (talk · edits) 22:35, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- I see everyone's reasoning for why the page should continue to exist. Clearly there is reason here for why we should have the page. I just think it's a little weird that this enemy had a page compared to some other things that don't have their own page. If something like this exists, then why doesn't Bling Blipper have its own page? It falls under all of these categories. This is a unique creature that also appears in a Sub-Game, and it has a different name and identity compared to regular Blippers. I guess this must deserve a page too? My point is that this rule does not seem to be consistent across the entire wiki, and while this was the only example I was able to find of this, I'm sure that there might be more that slipped through the cracks. This page can continue to exist, but if we are going to have pages like this, then other creatures deserve their own pages, there may be more out there.
--Basic Person (talk/contribs) 20:21, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- I agree that merging this with another enemy page wouldn't be the best move. Moreover, I'm not sure if we want to move this to Field Frenzy just because it's a sub-game only enemy... Mass Attack in particular has many unique enemies that have pages as small as this one, such as Big Schnoz for a random example (which, actually, is even smaller than this one). If we end up merging this with Field Frenzy, we will have to go over a bunch of other minor enemy pages and maybe merge them, but I personally don't think we should. So, in my opinion, yes, this page should exist. - Gigi (talk • edits) 15:58, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- "...subjects that are extremely similar in appearance, behavior, or both, but officially operate under different names and identities. ... All three of these subjects are effectively the same character and fight in almost the exact same way, but since they are separate entities in-universe and operate separately, they each get their own separate articles." -Article creation policy. A robotic version of something and the thing the robot is based on are definitely separate entities and should be split as long as there's enough information about it to make a non-stub page, so this shouldn't be merged with Moley. As for whether or not sub-game exclusive enemies deserve their own pages, I'm not sure, but I feel like they should as long as we have enough info. ---PinkYoshiFan 15:54, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
